[IPython-dev] Announcing shrubbery

MinRK benjaminrk@gmail....
Sun Aug 21 13:33:54 CDT 2011


Aaron,

Your pyzmq steps make it look more complicated than I think it is, if
users want released versions.  There are eggs for osx 2.6,2,7, and
3.2, so `easy_install pyzmq` works on osx under most circumstances,
and includes 32+64b UB libzmq, so you don't need to build and install
it separately.

If you do want to build libzmq, you can use homebrew: `brew install
zeromq --universal` (the universal flag for specifying 32+64b).  Since
this (as well as the default `./configure && make && make install`)
put libzmq in /usr/local, then pyzmq *is* pip-installable at this
point.

-MinRK

On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:03, Aaron Meurer <asmeurer@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is good.  Mac OS X users are usually treated like Linux users in
> that they're expected to be command line savvy to install software
> (actually more than average, since Linux users at least have package
> managers).  But really we should treat most of them the same as we do
> Windows users: people who may know Python, or at least are learning
> it, but aren't very comfortable with the "./configure;make;make
> install" process.
>
> By the way, if anyone's interested, I detailed the steps I took to
> install the qtconsole in Python 2 in Lion with the XCode 4 developer
> tools at https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/Installing-the-IPython-qtconsole-in-Mac-OS-X.
> There's nothing too complicated; you just have to make sure that you
> get the right things from the right places.
>
> Some questions about shrubbery:
>
> First, how easy is it to add new packages?  It looked to me like you
> have to edit several places throughout the file to do it, so that it's
> not trivial, especially if you don't know everywhere to edit the file.
>
> Second, I noticed that you are getting everything from git. Have you
> considered using git submodules?
>
> Third, are you considering to just include Python 3 with the installer?
>
> Aaron Meurer
>
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Grahame Bowland <grahame@angrygoats.net> wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I've spent the last few days coming up with a Python 3 distribution of
>> iPython and friends for Mac OS X. It now works (mostly), and I thought
>> I'd share it.
>>
>> The home page is here:
>> https://github.com/grahame/shrubbery
>> and I've put an experimental installer image here:
>> https://github.com/downloads/grahame/shrubbery/shrubbery.pkg
>>
>> For a long time I've maintained my Python setup by hand, installing
>> packages into /usr/local and eventually having a huge mess. Hence this
>> project - a distribution of software for Mac OS to make it easier for
>> people to get started with iPython.
>>
>> I've targeted Python 3 in the hope it'll encourage the porting of more
>> software to the new version of the language.
>>
>> There's not too much Mac OS specific about this, except that on Linux
>> you'd probably want to get packages from your distribution. If anyone
>> wants to make it work on other platforms that'd be great.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Grahame
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