[IPython-dev] Announcing shrubbery

MinRK benjaminrk@gmail....
Sun Aug 21 14:23:55 CDT 2011


On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:51, Aaron Meurer <asmeurer@gmail.com> wrote:

> According to the guide, pip install pyzmq didn't work because I had to
> pass --zmq="/usr/local/" to the setup.py install command.  This was a
> couple of weeks ago when I did this, so I don't remember the details
> (that's why I wrote it all down).  I guess this is the result of
> compiling zeromq from git.  I seem to remember `pip install pyzmq` not
> working without zeromq installed already, but I could be wrong.
>

You are right that pip won't work without libzmq because building from
source needs libzmq headers and library, and pip always builds from source.

You should only need to specify --zmq=prefix if libzmq is somewhere *other*
than /usr/local.

The two easiest ways to install libzmq+pyzmq release:
1. easy_install pyzmq
2. brew install zeromq  --universal && pip install pyzmq


> I did make the choice to install zeromq from git, when I'm sure that
> installing from a source tarball would have been easier (this is just
> because "git clone" is easier for me, and having the git clone will
> make things much easier in the future).  And I used homebrew only as a
> last resort, where likely I could have gotten more done with it.
>
> Anyway, it's perhaps not the best way to do it, but it's the way that
> worked for me, and I wanted to document it publicly in case any of the
> tips were helpful to someone else.
>

Yes, this is definitely very helpful.  I would probably just add a note on
your pyzmq section that says " `easy_install pyzmq` should work, but if you
want git versions...",
and possibly remove the 'easy_install/pip won't work' note, since I don't
believe that it is accurate when you install zeromq to /usr/local as you are
doing.

-MinRK


> Aaron Meurer
>
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM, MinRK <benjaminrk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Aaron,
> >
> > Your pyzmq steps make it look more complicated than I think it is, if
> > users want released versions.  There are eggs for osx 2.6,2,7, and
> > 3.2, so `easy_install pyzmq` works on osx under most circumstances,
> > and includes 32+64b UB libzmq, so you don't need to build and install
> > it separately.
> >
> > If you do want to build libzmq, you can use homebrew: `brew install
> > zeromq --universal` (the universal flag for specifying 32+64b).  Since
> > this (as well as the default `./configure && make && make install`)
> > put libzmq in /usr/local, then pyzmq *is* pip-installable at this
> > point.
> >
> > -MinRK
> >
> > On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:03, Aaron Meurer <asmeurer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This is good.  Mac OS X users are usually treated like Linux users in
> >> that they're expected to be command line savvy to install software
> >> (actually more than average, since Linux users at least have package
> >> managers).  But really we should treat most of them the same as we do
> >> Windows users: people who may know Python, or at least are learning
> >> it, but aren't very comfortable with the "./configure;make;make
> >> install" process.
> >>
> >> By the way, if anyone's interested, I detailed the steps I took to
> >> install the qtconsole in Python 2 in Lion with the XCode 4 developer
> >> tools at
> https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/Installing-the-IPython-qtconsole-in-Mac-OS-X
> .
> >> There's nothing too complicated; you just have to make sure that you
> >> get the right things from the right places.
> >>
> >> Some questions about shrubbery:
> >>
> >> First, how easy is it to add new packages?  It looked to me like you
> >> have to edit several places throughout the file to do it, so that it's
> >> not trivial, especially if you don't know everywhere to edit the file.
> >>
> >> Second, I noticed that you are getting everything from git. Have you
> >> considered using git submodules?
> >>
> >> Third, are you considering to just include Python 3 with the installer?
> >>
> >> Aaron Meurer
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Grahame Bowland <
> grahame@angrygoats.net> wrote:
> >>> Hi everyone
> >>>
> >>> I've spent the last few days coming up with a Python 3 distribution of
> >>> iPython and friends for Mac OS X. It now works (mostly), and I thought
> >>> I'd share it.
> >>>
> >>> The home page is here:
> >>> https://github.com/grahame/shrubbery
> >>> and I've put an experimental installer image here:
> >>> https://github.com/downloads/grahame/shrubbery/shrubbery.pkg
> >>>
> >>> For a long time I've maintained my Python setup by hand, installing
> >>> packages into /usr/local and eventually having a huge mess. Hence this
> >>> project - a distribution of software for Mac OS to make it easier for
> >>> people to get started with iPython.
> >>>
> >>> I've targeted Python 3 in the hope it'll encourage the porting of more
> >>> software to the new version of the language.
> >>>
> >>> There's not too much Mac OS specific about this, except that on Linux
> >>> you'd probably want to get packages from your distribution. If anyone
> >>> wants to make it work on other platforms that'd be great.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Grahame
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