[IPython-dev] [IPython-User] Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2013
Mon Feb 11 22:51:30 CST 2013
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Fernando Perez <email@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Thomas Kluyver <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> In previous years I know we've not done GSoC, because mentoring takes up
>> quite a bit of time itself. But maybe with the grant supporting several
>> people working on IPython, we could reconsider that.
> My take is actually the opposite: if anything, given our
> responsibilities towards the Sloan grant, we shouldn't spread
> ourselves any thinner right now. Yes there's money there, but there's
> also a ton of work to be done.
I completely agree with Fernando. There is an important philosophy
behind the Sloan grant that I think is worth stating. I don't view
the Sloan grant as something that allows us to expand out activities
to include more things. I view the grant as something that allows us
to do a better job at what we are already doing: fewer bugs, higher
quality features, moving faster through things that were already on
our radar. This is really important. I think the GSoC would take us
away from that focus.
> GSoC is really a *mentoring* program to teach others how to
> participate in open source, that may by almost by accident produce
> useful code. Its real value is in the mentoring experience and in
> therefore growing a community. Unfortunately right now I think pretty
> much all the core people who could have enough experience in our
> project to be good mentors are already fully (if not over-) committed,
> so I don't see how we could do a good job mentoring a student.
>From my experience with GSoC (mentor for 4 years on SymPy), you really
have to put in a lot of time to make it worth while. It also takes
the right kind of projects - and I don't think IPython has many of
those right now. It is a much more complicated project than SymPy and
the work tends to be much more coupled. All that to say, it is a
non-trivial thing to commit to.
> I say that as someone who in the past has been a mentor, and I felt
> that a) I didn't do enough of a good job as mentor because it
> demanded more time than I really had; b) it didn't really serve the
> IPython project all that much in the end.
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Brian E. Granger
Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
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