[Numpy-discussion] Different results from repeated calculation

Keith Goodman kwgoodman@gmail....
Thu Feb 15 22:35:14 CST 2007


On 1/27/07, Keith Goodman <kwgoodman@gmail.com> wrote:
> I get slightly different results when I repeat a calculation. In a
> long simulation the differences snowball and swamp the effects I am
> trying to measure.
>
> In the attach script there are three tests.
>
> In test1, I construct matrices x and y and then repeatedly calculate z
> = calc(x,y). The result z is the same every time. So this test passes.
>
> In test2, I construct matrices x and y each time before calculating z
> = calc(x,y). Sometimes z is slightly different---of the order of 1e-21
> to 1e-18. But the x's test to be equal and so do the y's. This test
> fails. (It doesn't fail on my friend's windows box; I'm running
> linux.)
>
> test3 is the same as test2 but I calculate z like this: z = calc(100*x
> ,y) / (100 * 100). This test passes.
>
> What is going on?
>
> Here is some sample output:
>
> >> import repeat
> >> repeat.all()
> 4 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 5 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 7 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 9 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 10 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 16 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 24 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 25 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 26 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 27 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 30 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 32 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 34 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 35 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 36 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 39 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 40 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 41 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 45 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 46 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 50 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 52 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 53 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 55 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 56 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 58 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 66 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 67 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 71 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 73 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 74 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 83 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 86 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 87 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 88 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 89 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 90 z different 8.47032947254e-22
> 92 z different 8.47032947254e-22
>
> test1:  0  differences
> test2:  38  differences
> test3:  0  differences
>
> Repeated runs tend to give me the same number of differences in test2
> for several runs. Then I get a new number of differences which last
> for severals runs...

I built a new computer: Core 2 Duo 32-bit Debian etch with numpy
1.0.2.dev3546. The repeatability test still fails. In order to make my
calculations repeatable I'll have to remove ATLAS. That really slows
things down.

Does anyone with Debian not have this problem?


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