[Numpy-discussion] problem with float64's str()

Will Lee lee.will@gmail....
Thu Apr 10 18:46:40 CDT 2008


Thanks for all the comments about this issue.  Do you know if there's a
ticket that's open for this?  Is this an easy fix before the 1.0.5 release?

Thanks,

Will

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Timothy Hochberg <tim.hochberg@ieee.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Will Lee <lee.will@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I understand the implication for the floating point comparison and the
> > need
> > > for allclose.  However, I think in a doctest context, this behavior
> > makes
> > > the doc much harder to read.
> >
> > Tabling the issue of the fact that we changed behavior for a moment,
> > this is a fundamental problem with using doctests as unit tests for
> > numerical code. The floating point results that you get *will* be
> > different on different machines, but the code will still be correct.
> > Using allclose() and similar techniques are the best tools available
> > (although they still suck). Relying on visual representations of these
> > results is simply an untenable strategy.
>
>
> That is sometimes, but not always the case. Why? Because most of the time
> that one ends up with simple values, one is starting with arbitrary floating
> point values and doing at most simple operations on them. Thus a strategy
> that helps many of my unit tests look better and function reliably is to
> choose values that can be represented exactly in floating point. If the
> original value here had been 0.00125 rather than .0012, there would be no
> problem here. Well almost, you still are vulnerable to the rules for zero
> padding and what no getting changed and so forth, but in general it's more
> reliable and prettier.
>
> Of course this isn't always a solution. But I've found it's helpful for a
> lot cases.
>
> Note that the string
> > representation of NaNs and Infs are completely different across
> > platforms.
> >
> > That said, str(float_numpy_scalar) really should have the same rules
> > as str(some_python_float).
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Robert Kern
> >
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> > enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as
> > though it had an underlying truth."
> >  -- Umberto Eco
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