[Numpy-discussion] PEP: named axis

Robert Kern robert.kern@gmail....
Fri Feb 6 15:30:36 CST 2009


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 03:22, Stéfan van der Walt <stefan@sun.ac.za> wrote:
> Hi Robert
>
> 2009/2/6 Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>:
>>> This could be implemented but would require adding information to the
>>> NumPy array.
>>
>> More than that, though. Every function and method that takes an axis
>> or reduces an axis will need to be rewritten. For that reason, I'm -1
>> on the proposal.
>
> Are you -1 on the array dictionary, or on using it to do axis mapping?

I'm -1 on rewriting every axis= argument to accept strings. I'm +1 on
a generic metadata dict that does not implicitly propagate.

>  I would imagine that Gael would be happier even if he had to do
>
> axis = x.meta.axis['Lateral']
> some_func(x, axis)

That's fine with me.

>> I'm of the opinion that it should never guess. We have no idea what
>> semantics are being placed on the dict. Even in the case where all of
>> the inputs have the same dict, the operation may easily invalidate the
>> metadata. For example, a reduction on one of these axis-decorated
>> arrays would make the axis labels incorrect.
>
> That's a good point.  So what would be a sane way of propagating
> meta-data?  If we don't want to make any assumptions, it becomes the
> user's responsibility to do it manually.

I don't think there is *any* sane way of numpy propagating the user's
metadata. The user must be the one to do it.

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless
enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as
though it had an underlying truth."
  -- Umberto Eco


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