[Numpy-discussion] Removing datetime support for 1.4.x series ?

Darren Dale dsdale24@gmail....
Mon Feb 8 22:02:21 CST 2010


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Charles R Harris
<charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Darren Dale <dsdale24@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Charles R Harris
>> <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Darren Dale <dsdale24@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 21:23, Darren Dale <dsdale24@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 20:50, Darren Dale <dsdale24@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Robert Kern
>> >> >>>> <robert.kern@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 18:43, Darren Dale <dsdale24@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Robert Kern
>> >> >>>>>> <robert.kern@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> Here's the problem that I don't think many people appreciate:
>> >> >>>>>>> logical
>> >> >>>>>>> arguments suck just as much as personal experience in answering
>> >> >>>>>>> these
>> >> >>>>>>> questions. You can make perfectly structured arguments until
>> >> >>>>>>> you
>> >> >>>>>>> are
>> >> >>>>>>> blue in the face, but without real data to premise them on,
>> >> >>>>>>> they
>> >> >>>>>>> are
>> >> >>>>>>> no better than the gut feelings. They can often be
>> >> >>>>>>> significantly
>> >> >>>>>>> worse
>> >> >>>>>>> if the strength of the logic gets confused with the strength of
>> >> >>>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>>> premise.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> If I recall correctly, the convention of not breaking ABI
>> >> >>>>>> compatibility in minor releases was established in response to
>> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>> last ABI compatibility break. Am I wrong?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I'm not sure how this relates to the material quoted of me, but
>> >> >>>>> no,
>> >> >>>>> you're not wrong.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Just trying to provide historical context to support the strength
>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >>>> the premise.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The existence of the policy is not under question (anymore; I
>> >> >>> settled
>> >> >>> that with old email a while ago). The question is whether to change
>> >> >>> the policy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So I have gathered. I question whether the concerns that lead to
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> decision in the first place are somehow less important now.
>> >> >
>> >> > And we're back to gut feeling territory again.
>> >>
>> >> That's unfair. I can't win based on gut, you know how skinny I am.
>> >> __
>> >
>> > We haven't reached the extreme of the two physicists at SLAC who stepped
>> > outside to settle a point with fisticuffs. But with any luck we will get
>> > there ;)
>>
>> Really? That also happened here at CHESS a long time ago, only they
>> didn't go outside to fight over who got to use the conference room.
>> ______
>
> Heh. I can't vouch for the story personally, I got it from a guy who was a
> grad student back in the day working on a detector at Fermilab along with a
> cast of hundreds.

Yeah, same here. Although, one of the combatants at CHESS, after he
retired, beat an intruder into submission with a fireplace poker. That
story made the local papers.

Darren


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