[Numpy-discussion] YouTrack testbed

David Cournapeau cournape@gmail....
Thu Apr 12 14:22:02 CDT 2012


On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Ralf Gommers
<ralf.gommers@googlemail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM, David Cournapeau <cournape@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Ralf Gommers <
>> ralf.gommers@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Bryan Van de Ven <bryanv@continuum.io>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/3/12 4:18 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote:
>>>> > Here some first impressions.
>>>> >
>>>> > The good:
>>>> > - It's responsive!
>>>> > - It remembers my preferences (view type, # of issues per page, etc.)
>>>> > - Editing multiple issues with the command window is easy.
>>>> > - Search and filter functionality is powerful
>>>> >
>>>> > The bad:
>>>> > - Multiple projects are supported, but issues are then really mixed.
>>>> > The way this works doesn't look very useful for combined admin of
>>>> > numpy/scipy trackers.
>>>> > - I haven't found a way yet to make versions and subsystems appear in
>>>> > the one-line issue overview.
>>>> > - Fixed issues are still shown by default. There are several open
>>>> > issues filed against youtrack about this, with no reasonable answers.
>>>> > - Plain text attachments (.txt, .diff, .patch) can't be viewed, only
>>>> > downloaded.
>>>> > - No direct VCS integration, only via Teamcity (not set up, so can't
>>>> > evaluate).
>>>> > - No useful default views as in Trac
>>>> > (http://projects.scipy.org/scipy/report).
>>>>
>>>> Ralf,  regarding some of the issues:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bryan, thanks for looking into this.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think for numpy/scipy trackers, we could simply run separate instances
>>>> of YouTrack for each.
>>>
>>>
>>> That would work. It does mean that there's no maintenance advantage over
>>> using Trac here.
>>>
>>> Also we can certainly create some standard
>>>> queries. It's a small pain not to have useful defaults, but it's only a
>>>> one-time pain. :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> That should help.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also, what kind of integration are you looking for with github? There
>>>> does appear to be the ability to issue commands to youtrack through git
>>>> commits, which does not depend on TeamCity, as best I can tell:
>>>>
>>>> http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/YTD3/GitHub+Integration
>>>> http://blogs.jetbrains.com/youtrack/tag/github-integration/
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure this is what you were thinking about though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That does help. The other thing that's useful is to reference commits
>>> (like commit:abcd123 in current Trac) and have them turned into links to
>>> commits on Github. This is not a showstopper for me though.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the other issues, Maggie or I can try and see what we can find out
>>>> about implementing them, or working around them, this week.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd say that from the issues I mentioned, the biggest one is the
>>> one-line view. So these two:
>>>
>>>   - I haven't found a way yet to make versions and subsystems appear in
>>>     the one-line issue overview.
>>>   - Fixed issues are still shown by default. There are several open
>>>     issues filed against youtrack about this, with no reasonable
>>> answers.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Of course, we'd like to evaluate any other viable issue trackers as
>>>>
>>>> well. Do you have any suggestions for other systems besides YouTrack?
>>>>
>>>
>>> David wrote up some issues (some of which I didn't check) with current
>>> Trac and looked at Redmine before. He also mentioned Roundup. See
>>> http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/wiki/ImprovingIssueWorkflow
>>>
>>> Redmine does look good from a quick browse (better view, does display
>>> diffs). It would be good to get the opinions of a few more people on this
>>> topic.
>>>
>>
>> Redmine is "trac on RoR", but it solves two significant issues over trac:
>>   - mass edit (e.g. moving things to a new mileston is simple and doable
>> from the UI)
>>   - REST API by default, so that we can build simple command line tools
>> on top of it (this changed since I made the wiki page)
>>
>> It is a PITA to install, though, at least if you are not familiar with
>> ruby, and I heard it is hard to manage as well.
>>
>
> Thanks, that's a clear description of pros and cons. It's also easy to
> play with Redmine at demo.redmine.org. That site allows you to set up a
> new project and try the admin interface.
>

And I just discovered this (and in python !)

https://github.com/coiled-coil/git-redmine

David
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