[Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

Charles R Harris charlesr.harris@gmail....
Tue Jun 26 15:07:29 CDT 2012


On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Travis Oliphant <travis@continuum.io>wrote:

>
> Exactly.
>
>
>> I don't
>> feel responsible for this issue (except I maybe should have pushed
>> more strongly about datetime being included),
>
>
> I think you left out a 'not'. I don't mean to imply that you were in
> anyway the blame. And you have been pretty adamant about not allowing late
> merges of large bits of code since then. It falls in the lessons learned
> category.
>
> but I am also not
>> interested in making a big deal out of it, certainly not two years
>> after the fact. I am merely point this out so that you realize that
>> you may both have a different view that could be seen as valid
>> depending on what you are willing to highlight.
>>
>> I suggest that Chuck and you take this off-list,
>>
>
> I don't think there is much more to say, although I would suggest Travis
> be more careful about criticising previous work, ala 'gratuitous', 'not
> listening', etc. We got 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, and 1.6 out without any help from
> him, and I think we did a pretty damn good job of working with the
> community and improving the code in the process.
>
>
> Wow!  Again, your attitude surprises me and I can't just let a public
> comment like that go unaddressed.  Not *any* help from me.   Is that really
> the way you view it.   Amazing!   No wonder people new to the project lose
> sight of where it came from if that's the kind of dialogue and spin you
> spread.
>
> So, you are going to disregard anything I've done during that time.   The
> personal time spent on bug fixes and code enhancements, the active
> discussions with people, the work on datetime, the contribution of
> resources, the growing of the community, the teaching, the talking, the
> actively trying to figure out just how to improve not only the state of the
> code but also how it gets written, the documentation improvements (from my
> early donation of my book).    Just because you are not aware personally of
> something or I don't comment on this list, it doesn't mean I'm not active.
>    I was not as active as I wanted to be sometimes (I do have other
> responsibilities), but this kind of statement is pretty hurtful as well as
> being completely inaccurate.
>
> "The community" is not just people that post to this list and a few users
> of SciPy that you know about.     "The community" is much larger than that,
> and I've been working with them too --- all along, even when I wasn't
> actively making releases.      I would suggest that you be more careful
> about accusing who is and who isn't "helping" with things.
>

I haven't been spinning. OTOH

charris@f16 [numpy.git (master)]$ git log v1.2.1..v1.3.0 | grep -i oliphant
| wc -l
23
charris@f16 [numpy.git (master)]$ git log v1.2.1..v1.3.0 | grep -i harris |
wc -l
151
charris@f16 [numpy.git (master)]$ git log v1.2.1..v1.3.0 | grep -i
cournapeau | wc -l
554

Chuck
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