[SciPy-dev] Comments on API for Matlab's eigs equivalent (computing a few eigenvalues only)

josef.pktd@gmai... josef.pktd@gmai...
Thu Feb 4 21:08:42 CST 2010


On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Charles R Harris
<charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:24 PM, <josef.pktd@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, David Cournapeau <cournape@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Warren Weckesser
>> > <warren.weckesser@enthought.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> David C,
>> >>
>> >> You said this was for symmetric matrices, but do you envision later
>> >> allowing nonsymmetric matrices?
>> >
>> > Yes. I have only implemented symmetric/Hermitian because that's the
>> > only solver that handles getting only a few eigenvalues in LAPACK.
>> > Matlab own eigs function uses ARPACK for both symmetric/unsymmetric
>> > cases, which is not good according to one of the Lapack developer
>> > (http://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/scipy-dev/2007-March/006778.html).
>> > But we could use ARPACK for the general case in eigs.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If not, then perhaps the name of the function should be 'eigsh',
>> >> following the precedent set by numpy.linalg and scipy.linalg.
>> >
>> > I wonder whether those eigh functions are a good idea: I fear that
>> > most people will always use eig - maybe one could use the underlying
>> > eig*h solver in eig* if the matrix is detected as being symmetric ? I
>> > am not really knowledgeable about those issues, though. For example, I
>> > don't know whether the symmetric aspect should be checked exactly, or
>> > if it is better to use a symmetric solver  even if there are very
>> > small errors in say A'-A.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> In particular, the choice of ordering by magnitude or by real part is
>> >> convenient.
>> >
>> > It seems that one would need to implement the non-symmetric
>> > capabilities to sort this out. I fear that those options are solver
>> > specific, though - maybe the solution is to have two levels of API,
>> > one low-level and one high level.
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > David
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>> the current version of scipy.linalg.eigh sorts from smallest to largest
>>
>> >>> scipy.linalg.eigh(x)[0]
>> array([  4.04457427e-03,   1.84073286e-01,   6.74875960e-01,
>>         3.23328824e+00,   4.00741304e+00,   6.98333680e+00,
>>         1.45314842e+01,   1.49260377e+01,   2.47166702e+01,
>>         2.98955755e+01])
>> >>> scipy.linalg.eigh(x, eigvals=(0,3))[0]
>> array([ 0.00404457,  0.18407329,  0.67487596,  3.23328824])
>> >>> scipy.linalg.eigh(x, eigvals=(len(x)-3, len(x)-1))[0]
>> array([ 14.92603769,  24.71667021,  29.89557547])
>>
>>
>> >>> x = np.random.randn(10, 10) + 1j*np.random.randn(10, 10)
>> >>> x = np.dot(x.T, x)
>> >>> scipy.linalg.eigh(x, eigvals=(0,3))[0]
>> array([-36.82039662, -18.20362967, -12.21716065,  -9.79752274])
>> >>> scipy.linalg.eigh(x, eigvals=(len(x)-3, len(x)-1))[0]
>> array([ 14.44815917,  28.8394026 ,  42.45471058])
>>
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> Yeah. It's my fault ;) It didn't use to sort at all.

I thought that's how Tiziano added them, I didn't see a sort when I
briefly browsed the source.
But I'm looking at lapack only from the outside.

Josef

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