[AstroPy] astropy in Debian, Scientific Linux?

Erik Tollerud erik.tollerud@gmail....
Tue Apr 9 17:11:34 CDT 2013

I like the petition idea, and the fact that, as Tom A says, we have a
definite example of people who want to use it but can't... We (the
coordination committee) are still looking into getting something
concrete from SOFA, but thus far it hasn't been too promising.
Hopefully we'll have more on this soon (~few weeks).

 We absolutely want future releases to be fully
Debian/Fedora-compatible, though.  So if SOFA refuses to budge we'll
probably have to switch to our own implementations of whatever SOFA
functions we are currently using.  It wouldn't be the end of the world
or ruin the project, but it would be quite irritating and wasteful of
time (especially for `astropy.time`, given all the work you put into
the SOFA bindings, Tom).

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Tom Aldcroft
<aldcroft@head.cfa.harvard.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Sergio Pascual <sergio.pasra@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> the past year we had a discussion about SOFA, an IAU library astropy depends
>> on, see the details here:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/astropy-dev/QVpMZFlsQUo/discussion
>> In short:
>>  * The Fedora legal team reviewed the SOFA license and they considered it
>> non-free.
>>  * I wrote the SOFA board asking for a license change, they did not answered
>> my request
>>  * SOFA and (any program depending on it) *astropy* cannot be included in
>> Fedora or EPEL (Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux) with the current SOFA
>> license.
>>  * astropy could be included by *removing* SOFA and the modules depending on
>> it (astropy.time ?)
>>  * somebody could package SOFA and astropy in rpmfusion.org, which provides
>> non-free/free-with-legal-problems packages for Fedora and EPEL
>>  * or in a different Fedora repository that provides
>>  * I think the situation in Debian is different
> Sergio,
> I wonder if it might be worth trying again with SOFA.  Things are a
> little different now since at this point there are real users that are
> unable to use our (and their) software because of their license.  This
> is very frustrating.
> I wonder if we could organize a petition in support of modifying the
> SOFA license to something more consistent with typical community
> standards.  I mean the IAU is supposed to be representing and
> benefiting astronomers, no?
> Thanks,
> Tom
>> Not having precompiled packages available in Fedora/EPEL is very bad for
>> astropy in my opinion. From a small sample of 20
>> Professors-Postdocs-Students in my Astrophysics Department, I can say that
>> only those doing software development use "pip". The vast majority use "yum"
>> in Fedora or "fink/macports" in Mac to bring in the package and continue
>> doing Science.
>> Regards, Sergio
>> 2013/4/7 Leo Singer <lsinger@caltech.edu>
>>> Hello,
>>> I would like to use Astropy on Debian and Scientific Linux. My experiment
>>> is pretty strict about using packaged software. Are there are there any
>>> plans to create .debs or .rpms for Astropy?
>>> I know how to create packages for both platforms, so I could help, but I
>>> don't (yet) know much about how the Debian and Scientific Linux/Red
>>> Hat/Fedora communities work, so I would not yet know where or how to submit
>>> them.
>>> Best,
>>> Leo Singer
>>> Graduate Student @ LIGO-Caltech
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