[Numpy-discussion] Release of 1.0b5 this weekend

Tim Hochberg tim.hochberg at ieee.org
Tue Aug 29 16:49:26 CDT 2006

David M. Cooke wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:03:39 -0700
> Tim Hochberg <tim.hochberg at ieee.org> wrote:
>> Of these,  clip, conjugate and round support an 'out' argument like that 
>> supported by ufunces;  byteswap has a boolean argument telling it 
>> whether to perform operations in place; and sort always operates in 
>> place. Noting that the ufunc-like methods (max, argmax, etc) appear to 
>> support the 'out' argument as well although it's not documented for most 
>> of them, it looks to me as if the two odd methods are byteswap and sort. 
>> The method situation could be made more consistent by swapping the 
>> boolean inplace flag in byteswapped with another 'out' argument and also 
>> having sort not operate in place by default, but also supply an out 
>> argument there. Thus:
>> b = a.sort()   # Returns a copy
>> a.sort(out=a) # Sorts a in place
>> a.sort(out=c) # Sorts a into c (probably just equivalent to c = a.sort() 
>> in this case since we don't want to rewrite the sort routines)
> Ugh. That's completely different semantics from sort() on lists, so I think
> it would be a source of bugs (at least, it would mean keeping two different
> ideas of .sort() in my head).
Thinking about it a bit more, I'd leave sort alone (returning None and 
all).. I was (over)reacting to changing to sort to return self, which 
makes the set of methods both less consistent within itself, less 
consistent with python and more error prone IMO, which seems the worst 

For the moment at least I do stand by the suggestion of changing 
byteswap to match the rest of the methods, as that would remove one 
outlier in the set methods.


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