Need more comments from scientific community on python-dev

Bill Baxter wbaxter at
Wed Nov 1 09:07:30 CST 2006

Grr, I wrote something up (it was wonderfully eloquent and convincing --
trust me!), but the gmane interface seems to have lost it (I posted two
things before responding to the two "authorization requested" emails, and
only one of the two things ever got posted it seems.)


On 11/2/06, Lisandro Dalcin <dalcinl at> wrote:
> On 10/31/06, Bill Baxter <wbaxter at> wrote:
> > One thing I see with PIL and Matplotlib and PyOpenGL is that they're
> having
> > to add specific support for Numpy and numeric and numarray and PIL and
> > ctypes etc.
> This is a real problem, and a waste of developing time, because we
> lack a **general** and **standard** mechanism.
> > would the proposed extensions make it
> > possible for all these different packages to just have to support
> "buffer
> > protocol" and magically be able to work with numpy or numeric without
> having
> > to introduce explicit dependencies and support code for all those other
> > packages?
> I think this is the actual reason of Travis's proposal, and of all
> other people like me supporting him.
> > If I've got the facts straight then I'd be happy to go and say
> > that on comp.lang.python.
> >
> Please, go on!
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