[Numpy-discussion] Removing datetime support for 1.4.x series ?

Charles R Harris charlesr.harris@gmail....
Sun Feb 7 09:35:02 CST 2010

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Darren Dale <dsdale24@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Travis Oliphant <oliphant@enthought.com>
> wrote:
> > I will just work on trunk and assume that the next release will be ABI
> > incompatible.   At this point I would rather call the next version 1.5
> > than 2.0, though.  When the date-time work is completed, then we could
> > release an ABI-compatible-with-1.5  version 2.0.
> There may be repercussions if numpy starts deviating from its own
> conventions for what versions may introduce ABI incompatibilities.
> I attended a workshop recently where a number of scientists approached
> me and expressed interest in switching from IDL to python. Two of
> these were senior scientists leading large research groups and
> collaborations, both of whom had looked at python several years ago
> and decided they did not like "the wild west nature" (direct quote) of
> the scientific python community. I assured them that both the projects
> and community were maturing. At the time, I did not have to explain
> the situation concerning numpy-1.4.0, which, if it causes problems
> when they try to set up an environment to assess python, could put
> them off python for another 3 years, maybe even for good. It would be
> a lot easier to justify the disruption if one could say "numpy-2.0
> added support for some important features, so this disruption was
> unfortunate but necessary. Such disruptions are specified by major
> version changes, which as you can see are rare. In fact, there are no
> further major version changes envisioned at this time." That kind of
> statement might reassure a lot of people, including package
> maintainers etc.
> Regards,
> Darren
> P.S. I promise this will be my last post on the subject.

Don't be shy ;) You make good points and I agree with them.

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