[Numpy-discussion] missing data discussion round 2

Mark Wiebe mwwiebe@gmail....
Thu Jun 30 10:07:58 CDT 2011

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Lluís <xscript@gmx.net> wrote:

> Mark Wiebe writes:
> > There seems to be a general idea that masks and NA bit patterns imply
> > particular differing semantics, something which I think is simply
> > false.
> Well, my example contained a difference (the need for the "skipna=True"
> argument) precisely because it seemed that there was some need for
> different defaults.
> Honestly, I think this difference breaks the POLA (principle of least
> astonishment).
> [...]
> > As far as I can tell, the only required difference between them is
> > that NA bit patterns must destroy the data. Nothing else. Everything
> > on top of that is a choice of API and interface mechanisms. I want
> > them to behave exactly the same except for that necessary difference,
> > so that it will be possible to use the *exact same Python code* with
> > either approach.
> I completely agree. What I'd suggest is a global and/or per-object
> "ndarray.flags.skipna" for people like me that just want to ignore these
> entries without caring about setting it on each operaion (or the other
> way around, depends on the default behaviour).
> The downside is that it adds yet another tweaking knob, which is not
> desirable...

One way around this would be to create an ndarray subclass which changes
that default. Currently this would not be possible to do nicely, but with
the _numpy_ufunc_ idea I proposed in a separate thread a while back, this
could work.


> Lluis
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