[Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

Adam Hughes hugadams@gwmail.gwu....
Wed Apr 25 16:16:15 CDT 2012

I too have to agree with Andreas.  I have been using Numpy for years in my
work, but am not versed in C so I don't even understand what numpy is doing
under the hood.  I too would only be able to contribute to the code at the
python level, or as Andreas said, at improving SciPy packages and other
Numpy-based projects.

One area that you may be able to get more help from the general user base
is with publicity, tutorials and word-of-mouth.  I had recently shown Numpy
to a friend who was versed in matlab, and he was really impressed because
Numpy is easily incorporated into more general Python scripts.  I've worked
a lot with the Enthought Tool Suite and shown off some of that to my
colleagues.  They are impressed at the streamlined code-to-visuals process
although I don't think they even realize that Numpy is responsible for all
the numerics in the program.  To this end, I think outreach would be
helpful in recruiting new programmers.  Once they understand that Numpy
does a lot at the C-level and that it is not strictly a Python feature,
they may realize its something that they can contribute to.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Alan G Isaac <alan.isaac@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/25/2012 4:51 PM, Andreas H. wrote:
> > I would assume that most users see numpy
> > as infrastructure, they write their own code on top of it. As a normal
> > user of numpy, I wouldn't know where it would need improvement to suit
> > my needs because it already does all I need. (Okay, masked arrays are
> > something which could definitely improve, but that's another story.)
> >
> > This is different from other, higher-level FOSS projects,
> Thank you Andreas.  I was debating whether to explain exactly this,
> to point out that I found Matthew's question inappropriately aggressive,
> or both. Now I can do both in a flash.
> But I find I would also like to once again say thank you to the
> developers, who have given us an amazing piece of software.
> I would add that I am impressed by the deep respect they show
> each other even when dealing with hard issues.
> Alan Isaac
> Just another grateful user for many years.
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