[Numpy-discussion] Lazy imports again
David Cournapeau
cournape@gmail....
Tue Jul 17 11:09:17 CDT 2012
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Charles R Harris
<charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:31 AM, David Cournapeau <cournape@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Charles R Harris
>> <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Working lazy imports would be useful to have. Ralf is opposed to the
>> > idea
>> > because it caused all sorts of problems on different platforms when it
>> > was
>> > tried in scipy. I thought I'd open the topic for discussion so that
>> > folks
>> > who had various problems/solutions could offer input and the common
>> > experience could be collected in one place. Perhaps there is a solution
>> > that
>> > actually works.
>>
>> I have never seen a lazy import system that did not cause issues in
>> one way or the other. Lazy imports make a lot of sense for an
>> application (e.g. mercurial), but I think it is a mistake to solve
>> this at the numpy level.
>>
>> This should be solved at the application level, and there are
>> solutions for that. For example, using the demandimport code from
>> mercurial (GPL) cuts down the numpy import time by 3 on my mac if one
>> uses np.zeros (100ms -> 50 ms, of which 25 are taken by python
>> itself):
>>
>> """
>> import demandimport
>> demandimport.enable()
>>
>> import numpy as np
>>
>> a = np.zeros(10)
>> """
>>
>> To help people who need fast numpy imports, I would suggest the
>> following course of actions:
>> - start benchmarking numpy import in a per-commit manner to detect
>> significant regressions (like what happens with polynomial code)
>> - have a small FAQ on it, with suggestion for people who need to
>> optimize their short-lived script
>>
>
> That's really interesting. I'd like to see some folks try that solution.
Anyone can:) the file is self-contained last time I checked:
http://www.selenic.com/hg/file/67b8cca2f12b/mercurial/demandimport.py
cheers,
David
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