[Numpy-discussion] Any plans for windows 64-bit installer for 1.7?
Thu Feb 7 00:41:28 CST 2013
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Ondřej Čertík <email@example.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> On 02/07/2013 12:16 AM, Matthew Brett wrote:
>>> Can you clarify the people you think will get stuck? I think I'm
>>> right in saying that anyone with a C extension should be able to build
>>> them against numpy, by installing the free (as-in-beer) MS tools? So
>>> do you just mean people needing a Fortran compiler? That's a small
>>> constituency, I think.
>> Off the top of my head there's SciPy and pymc...
>> Anyway, I'm butting in because I wish this discussion could separate
>> between the user perspective and the developer perspective.
>> 1) From a user's perspective, I don't understand this either. If you are
>> already using a closed source, not-free-as-in-beer operating system, why
>> would you not use (or buy!) a closed source, not-free-as-in-beer Fortran
> Indeed. Though I really have no clue on the Windows use cases. Maybe
> most Windows users don't want to compile anything, just
> use numpy and scipy from Python?
Well - yes - as a packager I really want to be able to provide a
binary so my binary consumers don't have to have a C compiler
installed. I imagine it's the same for all of us packagers out
>> 2) BUT, the argument I've seen that I can at least understand is that
>> the release manager should be able to do a release using only open
>> source tools (even using Wine instead of Windows) and not rely on a
>> limited number of licenses. And that the release manager must be able to
>> perform all the official builds directly.
> As the release manager, I really only have two requirements:
> * I want to ssh in there from my Ubuntu
> * I want to automate the whole process
> For Mac, linux and Wine I can do that. So I have just spend few hours
> browsing the net and it looks like that the combination of Windows
> PowerShell 2.0:
> and some SSH server, there are quite a few, one commercial but free
> for one user one connection (perfect for me!):
> So if I understand the pages correctly, I can login there from linux,
> and then I use the PowerShell commands to script anything. It looks
> like I can even use my Fabric fabfiles with powershell:
> I can also use git with PowerShell:
> So the final problem is how to execute MSVC and Fortran from Power
> Shell on Windows. These links might help for MSVC:
> Finally, for Intel Fortran + powershell:
> So I think it is all possible. If somebody can provide a machine with
> Windows, MSVC, PowerShell2.0, SSH server and some Fortran compiler, it
> should be possible for me to automate everything from Ubuntu using my
> Fabric files (https://github.com/certik/numpy-vendor).
Many many thanks for trying to solve this. I had really started to
give up hope.
I think you will need a developer's license for MKL for Numpy. Ralf -
any ETA for those?
I think I'm right in thinking you'll need a Fortran compiler for Scipy
but not Numpy? Can we defer the Scipy build until after the Numpy
I will try to get you set up with ssh on my Windows 7 machine in case
you can use it. It has the MS tools.
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