[Numpy-discussion] Insights / lessons learned from NumPy design

Benjamin Root ben.root@ou....
Wed Jan 9 09:41:34 CST 2013

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Alan G Isaac <alan.isaac@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm just a Python+NumPy user and not a CS type.
> > May I ask a naive question on this thread?
> >
> > Given the work that has (as I understand it) gone into
> > making NumPy usable as a C library, why is the discussion not
> > going in a direction like the following:
> > What changes to the NumPy code base would be required for it
> > to provide useful ndarray functionality in a C extension
> > to Clojure?  Is this simply incompatible with the goal that
> > Clojure compile to JVM byte code?
> IIUC that work was done on a fork of numpy which has since been
> abandoned by its authors, so... yeah, numpy itself doesn't have much
> to offer in this area right now. It could in principle with a bunch of
> refactoring (ideally not on a fork, since we saw how well that went),
> but I don't think most happy current numpy users are wishing they
> could switch to writing Lisp on the JVM or vice-versa, so I don't
> think it's surprising that no-one's jumped up to do this work.
If I could just point out that the attempt to fork numpy for the .NET work
was done back in the subversion days, and there was little-to-no effort to
incrementally merge back changes to master, and vice-versa.  With git as
our repository now, such work may be more feasible.

Ben Root
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