[SciPy-dev] scipy mainpage lacks visits counter and "donate" button

dmitrey openopt@ukr....
Fri Sep 14 14:05:24 CDT 2007

Robert Kern wrote:
> dmitrey wrote:
>> Robert Kern wrote:
>>> dmitrey wrote:
>>>> hi all,
>>>> don't you think scipy mainpage lacks visits counter and "donate" button?
>>> Not really. We (Enthought) host the server, so we have all of the logs we need
>>> to track visits.
>> It would be interesting for all users, not only Enthought workers
> Yes, of course. The point is that we don't have to stick a counter anywhere to
> get this information; just ask us, and we'll try to get the numbers.
I'm searching ukrainian foundations to obtain some money support for 
openopt development, and they want to know how much spreadered is that 
free software product that applier proposes to develop (I intend to 
contact them as one of scipy/scikits developers to enhance scikits 
optimization module). It's impossible to obtain number of downloads, 
because lots of users use getting from svn, and they will not waste 
their time to find and contact to someone w.r.t. the numbers, moreover, 
they couldn't trust the answer. But the number of page visiting per day 
may say something to them.
>>>  As for a donation button, where would the money go?
>> It's 100% your decision.
> No, it isn't. While I talk a lot, I am not the scipy project, nor is Enthought.
> Donation buttons work well for projects driven by a single developer, one small
> company, or a larger foundation. When there is a group of developers who don't
> have organizational ties outside of the project, it's really unclear what
> purpose the money serves. Usually, the donations are too little to do much
> except partially pay for web hosting, and Enthought is already taking care of
> that. They're not going to be enough to support development.
Ok, then it's scipy owner(s) decision - implement the button or not and 
howto spend money. But I think that scipy is much more spreadered than a 
common scientific project, and maybe money would be helpful to enhance 
the one and keep it up-to-date vs MATLAB and/or other concurrents. In 
anyway, the button could be removed in any time.
Regards, D.

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