[SciPy-Dev] SciPy.org Website Move and Redesign

Anthony Scopatz scopatz@gmail....
Wed Jul 25 20:57:24 CDT 2012

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Pauli Virtanen <pav@iki.fi> wrote:
>> Kyle Mandli <kyle.mandli <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> [clip]
>> > 1) Mailing lists - Leave these as there's a lot of content there
>> > and we are worried about losing history and users if we even
>> > attempted to move this (plus we don't have a good alternative).
>> Mailing lists are going to be needed. They don't necessarily need to
>> be hosted on the current scipy.org machine, but it's probably best not to
>> touch what has been working reliably.
>> > 2) Scipy.org (and numpy.org) - Move the content to a repository under
>> the
>> > Scipy organization on github that would contain a sphinx representation
>> > of the content that people can make pull requests to. There would be
>> > another repository that the built content would then be pushed to and
>> > that github would show as the website. David Warde-Farley has made
>> > an attempt at converting many of the scipy pages over to sphinx but it
>> > was never used (https://github.com/dwf/scipy-website). I noticed there
>> > were a few attempts at this a while ago (> 2 years).
>> Note that the scipy.github.com site is up with a Git repo set up at
>> https://github.com/scipy/scipy.org-new/
>> Similarly, numpy.scipy.org site has already moved to Github.
> I think the www.scipy.org site looks a lot nicer than the replacement,
> which still looks unfinished.

I disagree and am in favor of the replacement though I probably don't have
the spare cycles to contribute in any meaningful way.


>> I would see these repos as the central point for any further work.
>> David's work is not merged there, but it could be merged (where
>> applicable --- some of the content in scipy.org is outdated).
>> > 3) Trac Projects - Numpy is in the process (or so we thought)
>> [clip]
>> I think the trac projects are a separate issue --- web site redesign
>> can either precede or come after what is done with Trac.
>> IMO, one of the first steps to do is to design a website layout
>> skeleton that can be used appropriately on scipy.org, and daughter
>> sites, docs.scipy.org, scipy-central.org, etc. This does not have
>> to be in Sphinx format at first, just plain HTML+whatever, it's easy
>> to hack in later. It also doesn't have to be great, but it does have
>> to exist, and one has to think a bit about how and where to put the
>> navigation tools.
>> The amount of relevant "official" content on scipy.org is actually
>> not very big, I think.
>> The main issue is more on what to do with the Cookbook/Topical software
>> sections, which in my opinion are not very well-suited to a
>> Sphinx-generated static site. Why this hasn't moved forwards is
>> probably largely due to not reaching a decision on what actually
>> to do with this material.
>> The current best bet as a replacement (apart from keeping these in Moin)
>> would probably be scipy-central.org --- which I'm sure would also benefit
>> greatly from additional love. Enthusiastic Django-capable people might be
>> interested to take a look at improving it.
> Chuck
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