[SciPy-User] generic expectation operator

josef.pktd@gmai... josef.pktd@gmai...
Thu Aug 23 14:07:21 CDT 2012

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:09 PM, nicky van foreest <vanforeest@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Josef,
>> oversight to add it, I guess.
> Ok.
>> can be added and it can delegate like in the other methods.  PR welcome.
>> frozen_dist.dist.expect(..)
> oops. I saw this request coming. While it is trivial to implement
> (nearly a copy paste from the other examples in rv_frozen),  I have to
> admit that working with git takes me a considerable amount of time, as
> I hardly use it.

I'm using mostly git gui so I can keep the number of git commands,
sub-commands and options that I have to remember or to look up to a
small number. Then it's ok.

>> (I almost never work with frozen distribution and didn't see this.)
> Is there a specific reason for this? I find it very convenient.

habit, unnecessary detour and useless for fitting.

> For the moment I solve the problem with the expectation with this function:
> def expect(X, f, lb, ub):
>     if hasattr(X, 'dist'):
>         return X.dist.expect(f, lb = lb, ub = ub)
>     else:
>         return X.expect(f, lb = lb, ub = ub)
> Like this I can pass frozen distributions and the ones that I make
> with rv_discrete.  As your suggestion above is not yet part of
> standard scipy, I 'll use this function to show my students how
> convenient python is.

If you run into problems with the discrete expect, then please report
them or file a ticket (if not a PR).
I have no idea how much usage it has seen, and it's based on a
truncated sum, that has problems in some cases (edge cases or cases
where tails are important).


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